have an agreement among all parties, congressional republicans as well as barack obama and if mitt romney had become president the same thing, and the last-- absolutely. stuart: we're going to unleash borrowing? >> i think what we need-- >> take off that ceiling and allow the the president to spend what he wants and therefore, borrow. >> let's talk about your friend reagan, i think 18 times he raised the debt ceiling, so, nobody held him hostage the full faith and credit. stuart: if we do that now, no limit, there's no debt ceiling at all, and president obama could just, just borrow it. no one from congress, but borrow it, what happens. >> would i love to see some responsibility on behalf of congressional leaders. stuart: you don't think we'd get a debt crisis. >> been threatening bond vigilantes and things in the past five years, i haven't seen it yet. stuart: unfortunately we're out of time, but i love that smile. >> thank you, i love being on with you, despite the fact, talking-- the highlight of my day knowing i was going to be with you. stuart: and i do not believe you. >> it's 100%